Tuesday, November 08, 2005

Chinese Christian Intellectuals on America

"'O Christian, what witness have you borne for Christ in Western culture? Did you bring Christ into modern Western culture to Christianize culture? Or did you bring modern Western culture into Christianity to secularize your faith? Have you ever reflected on the reason why people see the witness of your lives and end up doubting the reality of your faith?'"

"'O Christian, don't carry this pseudonym 'Christian nation' on your lips any more — this doesn't help your religion at all! It is high time to stop chaining Christ and the powers of the state together. The noble name of Jesus Christ should no longer be insulted by the selfishness of a nation, people or institution.' Among this great host who call themselves Christians, how many of them truly put their trust in Jesus Christ? Look at their lives: who can believe that they believe in Jesus Christ? When individualism becomes the final authority for moral decisions, when consumerism takes hold of people's lives, isn't faith a mere decoration?"

I'm reading a couple books right now by Chinese intellectuals on faith, society, Christianity, and Western culture. Very fascinating stuff for me (and more motivation to really learn Mandarin). E-mail me for the references - of course the best stuff won't "fit" on the blog. Here's a smattering of quotes relating to the West, humanity, faith, or whatever...

"He was in China in the late 1940's, living on a small island along the southern Chinese coast. He would often take a little fishing boat across the water to preach. One evening, he could not find the boat. He saw a little girl and asked her for help. She asked him for a song, so he sang a Christian hymn and asked her to sing one for him as well. 'I have nothing to sing about,' she said, lowering her head."

"Those of us who came from mainland China believe that there is neither unconditional love nor unconditional hate in the world. Nothing comes without conditions."

"Another reason why Jesus' words stirred me so deeply and immediately was the simplicity and depth with which he spoke. I had studied philosophy and all those pretentious words which cause so much consternation. But Jesus' words penetrate the heart."

"For that person who lives without God, who has no new life, more freedom serves only to accelerate that person's degeneration. This is because one who is free in the realm of sin is driven by his or her own lust. Dostoevsky once said that if God did not exist, everything would be permissible. In the same vein, I believe that though "freedom" seems to be breaking out across the world, if faith in God is lost, "freedom" will soon face its final enemy: freedom itself."

6 Comments:

At 11/11/2005 10:26:00 AM, Blogger miller said...

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At 11/11/2005 05:39:00 PM, Blogger miller said...

no, you're absolutely right... bashing is tempting but unproductive.

like you, i think the answers to the questions present some interesting visioning for us.

i think i don't want to be emergent or anything else... i just want to be faithful.

peace

 
At 11/13/2005 10:30:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not into all these deep thoughts tonight - just wanted to say hi and this was the latest post to say it on. We are loving life here but miss you guys and the rest of the Abilene gang. We will always have fond memories of late night cards, big screen playoff hockey and Sasquatch domination. Sorry to hear of your delay on the China front, but hoping the extra year will be a blessing.

For the Kingdom,
Malcolm

 
At 2/26/2006 01:04:00 AM, Blogger SM said...

I don't mean to use these guys just for more ammunition with which to take pot-shots at American Christianity. But it's quite, um, challenging to read their critique of us. Especially since all these guys do pretty much is study history, theology, philosophy, social sciences, and religion. They have a huge personal investment in it because as intellectuals with potential influence they consider it their 'responsibility' to find/create a foundation on which to base the future of Chinese culture and society. Christianity is one contender among many - again (we blew it last time, theological liberals and conservatives).

Their critique of Western Christianity goes much deeper than the usual things 'emergent Christians' are inclined to point out, because they critique us at the worldview level. I imagine that, if emergent Christianity as it's known in the West ever made it on to their radar, they'd just lump it in with everything else.

But I'm still reading. It's interesting to me not just because it's inline with our training, but also as someone trying to articulate life with God through Christ as He would have it in North America. In that sense, they offer an interesting perspective.

[Originally posted: 11/11/2005 12:22:34 PM]

 
At 2/26/2006 01:06:00 AM, Blogger SM said...

[11/14/2005 11:03:31 AM]

Malcolm! I was just thinking about you guys yesterday!

We saw Madalyn's pictures, too. What's the latest on you guys?

We'll be in Canada soon, too, and may be up for Phoebe's wedding.

Miller - yeah, they provide a helpful critique, whether I agree with all of it or not. And I share your feelings re: labels, but I don't know how to refer to what we've been up to the last few years in Abilene in a way that has potential to communicate without using them. So I do that cheesy grad school thing and but "everything" in quotations. =)

 
At 2/26/2006 01:11:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

[11/11/2005 10:26:14 AM]

wow, what do you say to something like that?

"Have you ever reflected on the reason why people see the witness of your lives and end up doubting the reality of your faith?"

as a matter of fact i have... i don't really like the answer. the truth is its time for something radical!

 

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